the watchtower study to be considered this sunday, august 3, 2014 (using the magazine dated may 15, 2014), titled are you moving ahead with jehovahs organization?, in paragraph seven (on pages 27-28), talks about the number of people baptized in recent years:.
7 where do those making up the great crowd come from?
they are being brought together because of what jesus foretold as part of the sign of his presence.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Now that you're waking up from the WT-induced stupor, you are able to connect the dots. As for the other sheeple, their minds are awash in unreasonable words from the cult and their time too wasted by unproductive recruiting to stop and take a real look at the things that you are seeing.
i've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.
by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.
a brief bio.
Welcome!
"Question. Can the society put spyware on my computer when I go to jw.org? I'm frightened they will find out I'm on this site??"
You have WT technology confused with our old fears of demunz and smurfs. If jw.org was really able to spy on the other sites that JWs were visiting, there would already be a massive wave of JWs dfd for frequenting porn sites.
about a month ago, i realized that i didn't really care about my still-in jw family.
i just want to be left alone by them.
they caused me so much grief.
Ugh! Those are some toxic relatives that you need to disfellowship from your life.
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
I like Joe's idea to be short on your time. Explosive diarrhea is a good reason to not go out.
this is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.
1. be a hypocrite.
i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.
Oub: 'The truth is, the GB are the apostates as they keep changing the doctrines of this "religion."'
Indeed, rather than apostates, those who leave are "liberated."
So, the two choices are:
1: Trapped - stay
2: Liberated - go
after venting's recent thread on the article on jw.org about the expirimental physicist who became a jw, i figured i'd post up my analysis/rebuttal of another similar article.
when i was going through the process of cleaning out the last bits of doubt from myself, i read a few of these and wrote down my thoughts just because it felt good to actually express it all somehow.
maybe some here (maybe even a lurker or two going through early doubts) will find some value in it.. link to origonal article: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201310/davey-loos-science-researcher-explains-faith .
"Our faith is not blind faith that ignores the facts of science."
Based on the reasoning that something complex needs an intelligent designer, where did that designer come from? Nowhere? Nothing? A fish needs a designer, but god doesn't? It's the equivalent of someone reasoning that a watch requires a designer, but a watch factory with a trained and experienced staff did not require design, training, or experience. It becomes infinite regression. And they're breaking their own rule requiring intelligent design when they dismissingly say, "Oh, gawd is different because he's always existed, like time and space." Really? This super-intelligent, all-powerful creator just "always existed"? So really, complexity can indeed come from absolutely nothing based on their explanation.
By contrast, evolution becomes much less complex and evidence of evolution can be easily found. I need to look up the exact statistic... As a dude, I have 99.5% the same DNA as a male chimp. However, I have only 97.5% the same DNA as a woman. Explains why men act like apes sometimes, eh ladies?
this is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.
1. be a hypocrite.
i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.
I would hesitate to call someone a hypocrite if they're stuck in. I consider WT to be the hypocrite.
If someone knows TTATT but have to lay low in the organization, I'd call them "a victim caught in a trap that has to choose whether to stay where they are or chew their leg off in order to get free."
for crying out loud - it was just a typo - millions now living will never diet.
Millions now living would rather diet than visit jw.org
at the international convention here i just got off the elevator with anthony morris.
he was heading to the basement and i was heading up to administration.
i rode one floor down with him before i went up to my destination.
"they feel Jesus presence in the GB room, and his leadings"
Right. He was inches away from an undercover apostate in a elevator and neither the holy spirit or Jesus could clue him in. What an idiot.
today i feel the need to write.
it been 3 years out of the borg and my life has been wonderful since then.
updates?
Just to fill you in on what you missed:
